the current jehovah's witnesses official child abuse handling procedure letter to all bodies of elders (october 1, 2012) has been placed into public domain by the australian (victoria) government "inquiry into the handling of child abuse by religious oganisations".. official government web site link to letter:.
http://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/images/stories/committees/fcdc/inquiries/57th/child_abuse_inquiry/submissions/steven_unthank_supp_a_appendix_1.pdf.
short link:.
So not once does the letter tell the elders to call the authorities (police etc) about abuse even if they are legally mandated to do so, instead they are to call the legal Dept and get advice.
I'm thinking this wont be looked on kindly by the authorities....
is coming and the elder wanted to set up a visit.
it's not like i wasn't warned.
there was a thread that talked about the push to call on inactive ones.. thanks to the heads up here, i knew the motive for the call.. i don't think i even know that eld.
Learn to say no, it's a very useful life skill.
No explanation is needed and if pressed for one you dont need to give it.
It's a great way to take control of your life.
ok in the effort of full disclosure, i have had a couple of drinks and recently experienced a circuit assembly and a bad experience with a co.. i don't know where to effing begin.
first of all the circuit assembly was a joke.
half the assembly was about pioneering and selling your soul to be a no-pay salesman for the borg.
It's a cult, ....just walk away head held high and save yourself a whole lot of wasted years and stress.
Almost everyone on here wishes they got out sooner, they saw the signs years or decades before but ignored or suppressed them.
my dad came into the jw's because someone studied the "creation" book with him.
it pains me deeply that he sent me an e-mail recently saying that to keep the peace with my mom, he will stop communicating with me as much as possible.
i should communicate with him only if i have an emergency.. it upsets me to no end, but i cannot do anything or much about it.
Yes please do.
the classic debate between those who believe that consciousness is merely the result of the operation of the brain, and those who believe that it is apart from the brain, like the idea of a soul or the classic dualistic distinction between mind and body, is a well-known one.. however the thought has occurred that when people try to convince me that the soul cannot be real; soul in the sense of consciousness being a separate thing to the operation of the brain, then really the materialistic non spiritual view is in fact a rehash of animism, strange as that might sound.. animism is the idea that soul, spirit, consciousness, or whatever it might be called, exists in plants, animals, things, objects, places or basically in everything and anything in the material world.
the view of some is that very primitive cultures had this wide category of spiritual belief, which eventually evolved into the all the religions, faiths and spiritualties of today.
some of the faiths of modern times are not defined as animistic because these draw a distinction between soul and body or in modern parlance, consciousness and brain.. so in very ancient times, at the dawn of human spiritual belief, the sun, for example, rising and setting was seen not so much as being caused by the proverbial spaghetti monster but as being the proverbial spaghetti monster.
The title of this thread should have been:
If you accept the existence of the soul then you are an utter fool.
http://www.27bslash6.com/easter.html.
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made me laugh out loud..... .
Epic stuff, David Thorne sounds like the dad we'd all want if given the choice.
my dad came into the jw's because someone studied the "creation" book with him.
it pains me deeply that he sent me an e-mail recently saying that to keep the peace with my mom, he will stop communicating with me as much as possible.
i should communicate with him only if i have an emergency.. it upsets me to no end, but i cannot do anything or much about it.
Sorry about your dad, that sucks, but keep these misquotes coming.
i think we are already living in the age where there can be no new religions.
we have access to information like never before and anyone claiming revelations of something new and starting a whole new religion can easily be discredited.. christianity and islam may continue to subdivide but i think we've pretty much seen the end of anything new in terms of a new belief system.. .
what are your thoughts on this?.
If people will willingly pay over and over again to see this guy stare at them then it just proves there is a limitless supply of stupid people gullible enough to believe anything, so yes there will always be believers in any old twaddle.
Are you factoring the date of 2008 which was around the crash, surely property prices fell after that bubble burst?
I'm not saying all is well with this deal, I'm saying it may not be as bad as it 1st appears.
the ibsa spent 6m buying two plots of land near wt house and spent another 10m on building and fitting out the flats.
since there are only 15 flats there, that works out at over 1m/flat - and these are 2 bedroom flats only.
similar flats nearby are marketed to the very top of the market.
You got any links or suitable proof for your assertions or do we just take your word for it?
Welcome to the wide awake club btw..
